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Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 Review

Triggers and Trigger Kits from Galloway Precision and RTK for Ruger, Smith & Wesson, Sig Sauer, Kel-Tec, Remington, SCCY, and Kimber. The devil is in the details of the Aegis Elite Pro; match hammer and trigger, loaded chamber indicator, flared ejection port. I shot the new Pro at the 2018 SHOT show and was impressed with the feel and performance for a smaller 1911. Maybe one day I will be able to afford a valor or discretion, but for now it's the kimber aegis elite custom. It is my first 1911 (finally). I'm thrilled so far. But I was wondering if anyone had some advice about the trigger. I would like it to be a little lighter (it's not a carry gun - range only) and I would like a little less pretravel. Trigger Job Parts Light Sear Spring ($8): Get at least two since you might mess the first one up. Light Mainspring ($4): The factory weight for.45 ACP 1911’s is 23 lb but you can go down to 20 for normal loads and even 18 for light loads. NEW VIDEO HERE: One of the Best Kimber Micro 9 Accessories to impr.

Well, these statements might be a whimsical stretch. But one of Browning’s related-versions, the Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911, is an ingenious combination of beauty and performance with some very nice features included. Thanks to Kimber America for sending me this Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 to review. I was anxious to test and evaluate it to see if it and its 4-inch barrel would work for Concealed Carry and International Defensive Pistol Association (IDPA) competition matches in the Concealed Carry Pistol Division. I have analyzed some excellent compact pistols for my Top 21 Concealed Carry guns in the second printing of my book “Concealed Carry and Handgun Essentials.” So now I want to analyze, compare, and rate this Aegis Elite Pro compact.

The Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 Review Plan

Initially, I want to present the specifications and features of the Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911. Next, I will give my ten criteria and range test results and my opinions for it to help you analyze your handguns and make the best selection for yourself. You can add or subtract from my criteria to meet your needs and preferences. Below, I’ll also suggest two quality, custom holsters, a horsehide leather, and a Kydex I like for this pistol.

Know that I am not on the Kimber America payroll, have not been paid or compensated by them in any form for this review, and not given any gratuities nor influenced to say certain things about the gun. I want to be as objective as possible, honest and straight-forward with my opinions and ideas the way I see the pistol to help folks sincerely. Also, please know that manufacturers do not buy advertising on my personal website. I have even turned down several guns to review, because of data indicating the firearm may be unreliable, had several recalls, accuracy problems, safety concern, etc.

Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 Specifications

Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 Features

• Full-Length Guide Rod and 14-Pound Recoil Spring
• Round-Heel, Bobtail Type, Butt- Bottom of Mainspring Housing
• Front Strap Checkering- 24 LPI
• X-Style (AEX) Rear Slide Serrations to Enhance Grip
• Attractive Two-Tone Silver Stainless Steel and Matte Black Finish
• Tactical Skeletonized Hammer to Reduce Weight
• Series 80 1911 with Firing Pin Safety Plunger
• No Accessory Rail
• Optional: Vortex Venom Red Dot Sight with 6 MOA Reticle- MSRP:$1,395.

Recommended Holsters for the Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911

Kramer Handgun Leather OWB Belt Scabbard Holster

Kramer Handgun Leather makes a beautiful, high-quality OWB Belt Scabbard Horsehide-Leather custom holster for this Kimber Aegis Elite Pro. This classic “pancake” design has excellent workmanship, is very comfortable, extremely durable, has excellent retention, covers the trigger, and conceals well. The Kramer Leather OWB holster has a high-riding FBI forward cant or tilt for easy draw. It is designed for wear on the strong side hip. When carrying it, I found that the butt of the gun tucks snugly into the body to help with concealment. I like the quality look, feel, and function of this holster. And, it works well for concealment, for the range, competition, and for home use. The Kimber Aegis Elite Pro is shown below in the high-quality Kramer Leather OWB Pancake Belt Scabbard Holster. A quality handgun and a quality holster go together for optimal results.

Kramer Holsters wants to offer my readers a 15% Discount off all purchases through November 30, 2018, for their high-quality holsters. When ordering, mention Col Ben or use the Discount Code “ColBen15.”

BlackPoint Tactical Kydex Standard OWB Holster

BlackPoint Tactical makes a quality and comfortable Standard Kydex Outside-the-Waistband (OWB) holster to custom fit the Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911. BlackPoint’s standard OWB holster is designed to have a total curve throughout the body of the holster, allowing the holster to have a more natural fit to the curvature of the body. The holster comes with a retention screw that allows you to adjust the retention of the holster to your preference and a sweat guard. They offer metal hardware to eliminate a common failure point where loops break on OWB holsters. Side-mounted belt attachment points are used to reduce the overall thickness and to allow the gun to ride close to the body. They are many color options for the front and back and options for cant and loop sizes.

BlackPoint Tactical Holsters has agreed to offer my readers a 10% Discount off all purchases and Free Shipping through November 15, 2018, for their high-quality holsters. When ordering, mention Col Ben or use the Discount Code “ColBen10.”

Criteria and Considerations for the Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 Review

Here are ten of my criteria and factors I use for evaluating any handgun, so I will use them for this Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 review. In addition to my criteria, there are other subjective features that may be appealing for some, like smooth rounded corners, a particular style, magazine release location, action, caliber, appearance, number of mags included, type of sights/modifications, bore axis, rail, grip angle, non-porting or porting, added extras like a holster and pouch and customer service. So, I combined these into my last Miscellaneous criterion. I must admit that all gun-choice decisions involve tradeoffs, but I want all of my criteria to be met. I assigned a total possible point score of ten points for each of my ten criteria for a total possible score of 100 points. You can certainly add additional criteria, preferences or subtract any of mine.
Recognize that there are several features, characteristics, pros and cons, and personal criteria to include and consider and you make tradeoffs according to your priorities, preferences, defined needs, and use.

My General Impressions: Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911

The Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact is a quality 1911 gun with fine custom craftsmanship, very nice ergonomics and a reasonable price. The attractive and quality black finish on the slide blends very well with the silver frame. This Aegis Elite Pro is coated with the durable and beautiful KimPro II finish, including the slide.

Kimber finely machines checkers on the front strap with 24 lines per inch which allows the shooter an enhanced non-slip grip and helps prevent snags.

The standard front sight is fiber optic red, and the rear sights are fiber optic green. Given my color blindness, I had a difficult time seeing the front sight in red, but the green rear sights really stood out for me. I did receive an optional green front sight.

The slide has unique X-Style (AEX) rear cocking serrations which helped firmly grasp the slide. It has a spurless skeletonized hammer that won’t jab your side nor snag on clothing.

The frame is machined with a rounded contour to allow a high grip hold on the Aegis Elite Pro for optimal control. The magazine release is extended and is nicely checkered to help release a mag. Overall, it has been designed, shaped and sized for optimal access and functions fine with attention to details.

It was easy to takedown this 1911 with the included “paper-clip-like” tool, and there was no barrel bushing. It has a nice bull barrel and a two-hole, curved skeletonized trigger with a serrated front. The slide was easy for me to rack and the felt recoil and muzzle rise was very manageable.

This Aegis Elite Pro has a soft recoiling 9mm round which is easy to control, which makes for faster follow-up shots and more accurate strings of rapid-fire hits which is critical in defensive and competition shooting. With the lower-cost 9mm round that is easier and more comfortable to shoot, a significant benefit (other than ballistics) is that you will train more with it.

Ammo for Testing and Evaluation

I want to thank Sig Sauer and Persistent Motivation of Texas for providing various excellent ammo to test and evaluate the Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911. I shot high-quality and high-velocity Sig Sauer Elite V-Crown JHP ammo in 124 grain weight and FMJ rounds in 115 and 124 grain. Also, I shot premium Hornady Critical Defense 115 grain JHP and Remington 115 grain FMJ 9mm rounds to determine how well the gun cycled and handled different loads and weights. The Aegis Pro handled all weights and brands fine, without any malfunctions or stoppages.

Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 Range Test and Results

I recommend shooting at least 500 rounds over a couple of days to break-in a pistol (and to break-in you, the new shooter to this particular pistol) that I am considering for self-defense. I do this to be comfortable with its fit to my hands, handling, performance, reliability, and accuracy. I wanted to see how the gun handled out-of-the-box without any modifications for both the hollow point and full metal jacket ball rounds from three different ammo manufacturers. Recognize for this pistol review I initially fired only about 280 rounds total to evaluate it. Practicing with quality ammo can involve a hefty price tag, but you need to do this regularly before you bet your life on a gun. At about 200 rounds for a lot of pistols, you might even notice a smoother and softer trigger press, as I did here. To decide if I would recommend the gun for concealed carry or not and if you could use it for IDPA competition in the Concealed Carry Pistol Division, I must put sufficient rounds down range.

Would this compact 1911 have inherent accuracy and be reliable and handle the premium hollow-point rounds without any malfunctions or stoppages? Is this 1911 pistol accurate out-of-the-box? I had to answer these two key questions, as well as other questions relating to my criteria.

Below are my evaluations for each of my ten criteria for my concealed carry purpose. I wanted to put the gun through its paces with my Concealed Carry Drill with a magazine change and check it thoroughly for malfunctions, stoppages, and performance with premium, quality JHP ammo, and FMJ rounds. One suggestion is to be sure and get a second magazine since only one is supplied as standard. The factory 9-round full-length 1911 9mm mag, P/N: 1100307A, works fine.

I used my standard “Col Ben’s Concealed Carry Drill” to test and evaluate the Aegis Elite Pro, after I initially thoroughly cleaned it. You can use my Concealed Carry Drill to test and evaluate your handguns. I like the realistic 5-yard and 7-yard distances best to match common distances for personal defense.

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Range Results with “Col Ben’s Concealed Carry Drill” and Various Ammo

I used my above standard Concealed Carry Drill and easily and quickly landed all 15 rounds (with a magazine change) in the five various-sized circles at five yards, seven yards, and then at ten yards. I bypassed the 3-yard trial for more of a challenge and shot 280 total rounds.

First, I tested rapid fire with the Sig V-Crown 124 grain JHP and all hit in their five circle targets and within the 20 seconds time limit with magazine change at five yards and then again at seven yards. I did two iterations of this. Then, I fired the Hornady Critical Defense 124 grain JHP and repeated my 15 hits within the 20 seconds at 10 yards. I did two iterations of this. I met my goal with both the Sig Sauer ammo at five and seven yards and with the Hornady ammo at ten yards. Then I did the same drills with the Sig Sauer and Remington FMJ rounds, two iterations each. I had no problems with any of these rounds.

Assessing “Accuracy” and “Precision”

Accuracy and precision of any gun are especially important, and it is demanding and time-consuming to test and measure them objectively. Both are important and yes, you can test and assess both accuracy and precision of a handgun. Several factors, both objective and subjective ones, are involved.

Basically for me, if there is a widespread or high degree of dispersion of hits all over the target, then accuracy is not there. (Note: Precision may also not be there.) Well, what is the difference between “accuracy” and “precision?” Accuracy involves consistently hitting the target with the groups centered in or very near the bullseye or desired point of impact.

Conversely, precision is the tightness or size of the groups, no matter where they are located on the target. There is the intrinsic accuracy of the gun itself which is strongly influenced by the gun’s design, materials used, manufacturing processes, quality control procedures, and internal tolerances specified. Proper barrel fitting and very good slide-to-barrel fit, machining/forging of parts with tight tolerances and fittings, the use of proper steel and materials, and craftsmanship reputation are significantly related to this inherent, intrinsic accuracy.

Also, there is subjective accuracy demonstrated by the individual shooter and the fundamental skills applied to get the hits on target. The skills of the shooter in using the gun are critical and significantly influence individual accuracy.

For me, my handgun is “accurate” and acceptable if it gets the job done for the role I am using it for and does so consistently with more than one load. So, getting the hits consistently within the five circles and within the par time with various loads on my Concealed Carry Drill help determine my subjective contribution to accuracy.

Both intrinsic and subjective components are necessary to assess accuracy for a gun.

Intrinsic Accuracy Influenced by Forging, Casting, and CNC Machining of Parts

The gun’s internal, inherent factors that affect intrinsic accuracy do vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. And you do usually get what you pay for. With that in mind, I sought some more specific information about gun manufacturing processes. Here’s what I learned.

The key differences between forging and casting of metal parts. Forging is the manufacturing process of heating metals and using high-pressure compressing and hammering of parts into a desired shape while in a solid state.

From my layman’s understanding, a big advantage to forging is that the process significantly compacts the metal, making it stronger. Other general advantages include better fatigue resistance, higher tensile strength, greater ductility, and reduced chance of failures. Casting is where the metal is heated above its melting point and poured as a liquid into a mold where it solidifies. It seems the big advantages of casting are for the high production rate of large and complex parts, lower costs, and the flexibility it offers.

Again from this layman, I understand that when the steel hardens after casting, because of the grain structure, the metal is generally weaker, more brittle, and may not be as durable over time. But, each process has its pros and cons, can be combined and work together for producing a gun, and vary by gun part and its purpose.

Then there is Computer Numeric Contol, CNC, Machining. This method allows both forged and cast small and complicated parts to be precisely cut and measured in the thousandths of an inch with a computer-controlled machine. But, this use of a computer and its controls are expensive. CNC is a good compliment to forging and casting for some parts, and some prefer forging over machining for certain parts.

Key Accuracy Question:

A complex question for each of us to answer for ourselves is “Can your personal, subjective accuracy skills make up for any inherent Intrinsic accuracy insufficiencies built in by the manufacturer for the gun itself?”

So, I want to start with any particular handgun and its fit, materials, build process, quality control tolerances, and reputation for attention to function and performance details by the factory first. Established reputation, quality materials and processes used, craftsmanship, and sometimes price, are very good indicators of attention to intrinsic details. After all, I am probably defending my life and the lives of my loved ones with this tool and need to know key factors.

How much do I want to overlook for my expected results and accuracy? How is the gun built and assembled and what parts and materials did the manufacturer use? To what extent are metal injection molded parts versus CNC machined parts used and acceptable? What about the use of forged and cast parts? Does the manufacturer have a quality reputation over several years for outstanding craftsmanship?

I know my skills, shooting strengths, and weaknesses that subjectively influence my overall accuracy. And I need practice for improvement. Do you know yours? So I factor them into the gun’s intrinsic accuracy factors from the factory which I have researched. Doing so is time-consuming and not wholly scientific, but a start for vital assessment.

Ammo Matters

Don’t forget that ammo plays a very important role in accuracy results. It was a demanding challenge for this color-blind ole geezer with declining eyesight, but I did my part and met my goal with all ammo shot. I found both the Sig Sauer 124-grain JHP and the Hornady Critical defense 124-grain JHP to be accurate, reliable and excellent self-defense rounds. This quality gun with its intrinsic factors and the premium ammo did most of the work. Both of these loads will get the concealed carry job done and are very acceptable for me for closeup self-defense encounters. Again, thank you to Sig Sauer and Persistent Motivation of Texas for providing quality JHP and FMJ rounds for testing and evaluation.

Opinions and Evaluations for Each Criterion

1. Accuracy and Reliability – Score: 10

The Kimber Aegis Elite Pro’s accuracy was excellent and effortless for me at close and medium distances of 5, 7, 10, and 15 yards, typical self-defense distances. Despite my less than average eyesight, colorblindness, and average marksmanship, this senior guy was able to shoot decent groups with the gun right out of the box.

My hits at 20 yards with this compact were on target and accurate, but I had a little larger groups using both ammo brands. I have to work on my subjective precision skills. But, I had no problem out to 15 yards, with the gun’s intrinsic factors making me look good. All of my groups for my drills of 15 shots each at the various distances were about 2.5 to 3 inches or so, drawing from my Kramer Leather holster and with a magazine change.

I used my Modified-Isosceles Stance, a two-handed grip, and shot various 115 grain FMJ and 115 grain and 124 grain JHP ammo. I had no problems with Sig V-Crown or Hornady Critical Defense hollow points loading or ejecting. No malfunctions or stoppages whatsoever. And I had no feeding, ejection, or extraction problems with any of the excellent Sig Sauer, Hornady, or Remington FMJ rounds. The gun functioned flawlessly with all three ammo brands. The press was short, soft, and crisp, and the recoil was very minimal for me. I was impressed with the Kimber Aegis Pro’s inherent reliability. This Aegis Elite Pro was not at all finicky and digested every round. Accuracy and reliability were both excellent with the ammo used.

2. Trigger Press – Score: 10

Out of the box, the trigger press averaged 4.90 pounds without modification for the Kimber Aegis Elite Pro, with ten readings with my Lyman Electronic Trigger Pull Gauge. There were two 4.40 pound readings. This exceeded my goal and my desired maximum press range of five pounds for this single-action 1911 pistol which is not “broken in” yet. After more rounds downrange, I think it will smooth out more, and the press should lighten some.

3. Trigger – Score: 10

The match-grade trigger was crisp, smooth and excellent, with minimal takeup, and had a short reset, for quick follow-up shots. It was easy to feel the definite reset, and it was solid and very identifiable. This excellent single-action trigger had a consistent and very similar press each time. I really enjoyed shooting this single-action short and soft trigger.

4. Barrel – Score: 10

The Aegis Elite Pro’s Bull Barrel was match grade, ramped, and hand fitted to the slide with very tight tolerances. You could feel and see how this helped with stability, accuracy, reliability, and minimal recoil. The felt recoil was very manageable for both my wife and I. The barrel and slide are made from stainless steel, which helps with their rust resistance. I had no problems shooting nor disassembling and reassembling this Series 80 1911 with its bushingless barrel and its firing pin safety plunger system.

5. Sights – Score: 9

I like the Kimber Aegis Elite Pro’s factory fiber optic red front and green fiber optic rear sights. Since I am red color blind, if I buy this gun, I will change the front sight to a green one to compensate, but my wife really liked using the red front sight. The medium-sized dots were of sufficient size for me to pick them up quickly, but I would like the front red fiber optic sight rod to be a little larger for my old eyes. But, an easy-to-pickup green fiber optic front sight is my strong preference for a 1911 for concealed carry and competition use. And night sights are important for concealed carry. Note that the 2018 Aegis is available in Pro and Custom versions, with an optional Vortex Venom Red Dot optical sight and 6 MOA Reticle for about $350 more than this one with the fiber optic sights.

6. Weight – Score: 8

The Aegis Elite Pro weighed 28.5 ounces empty and that is an acceptable weight for concealed carry, but I prefer less for Every Day Carry. Loaded this steel gun weighs close to 31 ounces or so. So, this does not meet my stated criteria but comes close. But, there are tradeoffs. The trigger was aluminum, and the frame, barrel, and slide were stainless steel. These contributed to less felt recoil and stability for me for this solidly-made compact.

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7. Caliber – Score: 10

The Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 was easy and fun to shoot, and I managed the recoil well. Of course, shooting 9mm ammo is much less expensive than most others and modern ammo with improved ballistics like the kind I used here to get the job done. I prefer the lessened recoil and reduced movement for enhanced accuracy with the 9mm caliber.

8. Capacity – Score: 8

I liked the 9-round capacity of the Aegis Elite Pro 9mm magazine. But, there is only one steel mag included as standard. Given the likely need to have more ammo to deal with multiple bad guys/gals and the trend toward magazine capacity restrictions, shooters need more than one mag. However, Kimber was kind enough to send another magazine for my test and evaluation involving a magazine change. I prefer at least two and like three mags to be included as standard, but this adds cost for everyone to the package. The magazine has helpful round indicator holes.

9. Ergonomics – Score: 10

The ergonomics of the Aegis Elite Pro 9 mm were excellent, and I was easily and comfortably able to reach all controls like the thumb safety, slide lever, and magazine release. I could tell this is a custom and hand-fitted pistol and the high-quality craftsmanship was apparent. This was an almost custom-fitted gun for my medium-sized hands and me and my wife and her small hands. The slide, frame, match-grade barrel, and smaller parts are all nicely fit to enhance accuracy and reliability. I had no slide nor hammer bites, and it felt terrific to hold this thin profile pistol. The grip safety with its beavertail and memory bump was natural, comfortable, and I had no problems engaging the gun to fire it. The slide-to-frame fit was very solid, and it was easy for me to rack the slide.

10. Miscellaneous – Score: 10

I easily disassembled and reassembled the Aegis Elite Pro before I shot it, using the included L-shaped tool. Just put the supplied paper-clip-like tool into the hole in the recoil spring guide rod and you are set for easy field stripping. The nice hard plastic case included one magazine, a lock, bore flag, and Instruction Manual. The Aegis Elite Pro looks beautiful, and it is a high-quality accurate and reliable handgun. The unique AEX slide serrations and G-10 grips are attractive and useful, along with the eye-catching silver-black-green frame-slide contrast. The 24 LPI checkering on the front strap really helps acquire a firm grip and looks nice. I like the quality and attention to manufacturing details. The same 24 LPI or more fine checkering on the back strap would be a welcomed addition. Customer service is another factor to consider. I probably will add this fine Aegis Elite Pro to my carry and competition arsenal.

Total Points = 95 out of 100 Possible.

Conclusions

I certainly recommend this high-quality Kimber Aegis Elite Pro 9mm Compact 1911 pistol for concealed carry, home defense, and fun plinking at the range. You can also use this pistol and its 4-inch barrel and its single-side manual safety for IDPA competition in the Concealed Carry Pistol Division. The attention to details and its precise, finely-built craftsmanship are very evident and are the marks of an excellent 1911.

Also, I was very impressed with its accuracy, reliability, and its very controllable recoil for a compact 9 mm. The fiber optic front and rear sights really helped my aging eyes when shooting it. But, I prefer a green fiber optic front sight. Its many great, high-quality features as presented above are there, especially the accuracy and reliability. After a total of 500 rounds down range demonstrating these same results and characteristics, I would bet my life on this excellent pistol.

As always, these are my opinions, and you should try it for yourself. Be sure to use the holster discount codes mentioned above for Kramer Handgun Leather and BlackPoint Tactical holsters.

I hope this Kimber Aegis Elite Pro review has helped you gain some information for your decision. Consider that this is just my point of view with limited live-range fire and using about 280 rounds of three high-quality premium FMJ and JHP ammo. I recommend that you shoot any handgun yourself before you purchase it and have at least 500 rounds break-in range time through it for yourself. Try before you buy any pistol. Decide on your criteria, how you will primarily use the gun, and what’s important to you ahead of your range live-fire time. Then critically evaluate the firearm yourself per your criteria and purpose, with various ammo types and brands, and over an extended break-in period.

Continued success!

Contacts

Kimber Manufacturing
1-888-243-4522
Yonkers, NY 10710

Kimber Trigger Job

Kramer Handgun Leather
1-253-564-6652
Tacoma, WA 98411

Kimber Aegis Trigger Job

Sig Sauer for Elite V-Crown 9mm JHP-FMJ ammo
1-603-610-3000
Newington, NH 03801

Persistent Motivation Texas for Hornady Ammo
1-830-660-5519
Humble, TX 77396

Photos by Author and Kimber America.

* This personal opinion article is meant for general information & educational purposes only and the author strongly recommends that you seek counsel from an attorney for legal advice and your own personal certified weapons trainer for proper guidance about shooting & using YOUR firearms, self-defense and concealed carry. It should not be relied upon as accurate for all shooters & the author assumes no responsibility for anyone’s use of the information and shall not be liable for any improper or incorrect use of the information or any damages or injuries incurred whatsoever.

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